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Posted on May 6, 2003 at 10:13:58 PM by Kathy
LONNBERG... Kristinestads Vaasa
Looking for record of ggf leaving Finland to live in the UK as he was a
mariner where would the record be kept for his exit and or marriage to Sarah
Gustav Adolph b 23/11/1849 to Carl Gustav and Maja Greta Sundnas m 11/1/1846.
Posted on May 7, 2003 at 12:42:27 PM by Staffan
I'll do searches in the local archives sometimes in June with the expert
help of sea captain Jouni Harju in Kristinestad. He is the curator of
the Maritime Museum and has taken good care of the collected documents
of the Seaman's House in Kristinestad.
The name Sundnäs also catches my attention. It is wellknown from
Skaftung village as the name of a farm and last name of a lot of persons
from Skaftung (Sideby). Can you possibly specify more names and dates
or other useful information if you like to get your ancestors identified
from our local genealogy sources? I found one Maja Greta (also known as
Maria Margareta) at Sundnäs, but her birth date 04.08.1816 might
be too early. Incidentally, her family line has not been followed forwards
in the available written sources.
Your ggf:s marriage must be searched from the church books of Kristinestads
stadsförsamling on microfiches. Church records are currently only
partly online at the HisKi database. I'll ask a local genealogist to search
Voyages 1868-1874 of Gustaf Adolf
Lönnberg b. 23.11.1899 in Kristinestad
Posted on June 16, 2003 at 01:13:40 PM by Staffan
Jouni Harju of the Maritime Museum of Kristinestad kindly provided the
following information which he found in the archives of the Seamen's House
of Kristinestad re the voyages of your great grandfather. I have added
information from Norrvik 1999.
Gustaf Adolf Lönnberg b. 23.11.1849 in Kristinestad signed onto the
barque ANTO in Kristinestad on September 14 1868 as a deckhand and his
salary was 20 Finnish marks a month. This voyage of ANTO in command of
J.W. Ramström lasted about two years. On the last passage ANTO took
mixed cargo to Trinidad and sugar on the return passage to Greenock. She
arrived back in Kristinestad on July 12 1870.
The barque ANTO (299 lasts) was built in Kristinestad in 1866 in charge
of the shipbuilder A.G. Östman on a drawing by the Danish constructor
Julius Johan Fredrik Bustorff signed in Sastmola in November 1865. Owned
by C.G. Hydén, G.E. Strandman and E.A. Tötterman and from Hydéns
death in 1870 by his son Gustaf Hydén. First captains were Johan Wilhelm
Ramström (1866-1872), F.O. Hillström (1872-1874). Grounded 13.11.1885
at Conch reef, Florida and was then condemned
He signed onto the barque ANTO again on August 6 1870 as an ordinary sailor
with a salary of 30 marks and about one week later ANTO left for a passage
to the Mediterranian Sea.
He signed onboard the barkship CAROLINA in Kristinestad on August 25 1873(?)
as an able seaman with a salary of 50 marks for passage to Barcelona.
On January 25 1874 he jumped ship in Savannah.
The barque CAROLINA (260 lasts) was built in Kristinestad in 1866. Owned
by Carl Emil Carlström and others. First captains were Anders Hjalmar
Hjulman, his brother Johan Edvard Hjulman from 1872 to 1883. Classed by
Bureau Veritas for Atlantic trade. Usually she took cargo like wooden
products and then salt on her return passage. Sold in Valencia in 1887.
Source of information about the ships:
- Norrvik, Christer: Stad under segel. Kristinestads sjöfart efter
1809. Kristinestad 1999.
- Photos by courtesy of Olle Haavisto.
There are links to paintings of the ships from the page http://sydaby.eget.net/mar/lonnberg.htm
Correction to Voyages 1868-1874 of
Gustaf Adolf Lönnberg b. 23.11.1849 in Kristinestad
Posted on June 16, 2003 at 01:50:42 PM by Staffan
Correction to Voyages 1868-1874 of Gustaf Adolf Lönnberg b. 23.11.1899
ought to be:
Voyages 1868-1874 of Gustaf Adolf Lönnberg b. 23.11.1849 in Kristinestad
Voyages 1868-1874 of
Gustaf Adolf Lönnberg
Re(1): Voyages 1868-1874 of Gustaf Adolf Lönnberg
b. 23.11.1899 in Kristinestad
Posted on June 16, 2003 at 08:07:59 PM by KATHY
Thank you Steffan and Houni.Your wealth of knowledge astounds me and I
am very grateful.
Well at least you confirmed he was a seaman!!I am still searching the
UK for his marriage to Sarah Ellen? It seems amazing that the records
are no where to be found.
Thank you so much
Maria Margareta (aka Maja Greta) Henriksdotter
Posted on May 9, 2003 at 03:03:51 PM by Staffan
If the Maja Greta Sundnäs who married Carl Gustaf Lönnberg was
born on 4.8.1816 we get:
Matz Larsson, probably father of Eric according to Nybond 1998
Eric Matson Strandman b. 1701 - Lisa Thomasdotter b.1709
Jacob Ericsson Strandman-Sundnäs b, 1734 - Margareta Mattsdotter
Jacob was a pilot (sw. lots), and founder of the Sundnäs settlement
and farm in Skaftung. They had 8 children and Eric was child nr V.
Eric Jacobsson Sundnäs b.20.2.1765 - Margaretha Henriksdtr Demasör
b. 8.3.1771 They had 3 children and Anna Greta was nr. II
Anna Greta Eriksdotter Sundnäs b.17.7.1793 - Henrik Andersson Östberg
b.13.1.1788 in Sideby. They had 7 children (2 died at birth). The fates
of four of the children are known (Nybond 1998), but child nr. II Maria
Margareta has not been followed up by Nybond.
Maria Margareta (aka Maja Greta) Henriksdotter Sundnäs b.4.8.1816
married to(?) Carl Gustaf Lönnberg b. abt 1814
Maja Greta´s paternal grandparents:
Anders Öst(er)berg b. 1752 - Anna Kajsa Matsdotter 28.10 (28.5) 1761
According to the church books 1807-1813 Anders was born in Mouhijärvi.
They had three children. Henrik was nr. I. They lived in Sideby; at Rosnäs
There are some variations in the dates of birth (and dates of death) in
the church books which may account for some differences between the dates
in the two sources below.
Nybond, Gunnar. (1998). Skaftung by i Kristinestad. Släkterna Sundnäs
och Teirfolk. ISBN 952-90-9583-X, Vasa.
Holmberg, Karl-Axel. (1986) Mål och bygd i Sideby. Almqvist & Wiksell
Posted on September 23, 2003 at 01:18:46 AM by Kathy
Hi Staffan, still havent been able to find Gustaf Adolph Lonnberg leaving
Savannah for the UK.
Have found an interesting site along the journey though.
It contains huge amount of info on ships in most UK ports 1881 .
hope you will have a look as the info is amazing.
Posted on July 28, 2004 at 07:22:21 PM by Folke
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